Hail the return of the King!

[StangV82002]

May it's rule be long!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfmz7FWJrHA

[Blacksnake]

My pants get tighter every time I see this.....

[Trojan Horse]

Bout' time to!

[N/Apower]

Yeah, yeah, Hyundai's 5.0 is better anyway.


THAT woke you up.

Sadly, I'm being serious.

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/12599/ ... 0-liter-v8

They are going to make 429hp from their DIRECT INJECTION 5.0L

I mean, I love poking fun at you Ford people as much as possibly, but this really kinda makes me sad that they are beating Ford at the Pony-Car game.

8-speed automatic transmission, too. You can bet that extra horsepower is NOT going to be far off its powerband very often at all, the extra gear negating the slight torque advantage the Ford 5.0 has.

[Trojan Horse]

Someone is always going to "one up" whatever anyone else is doing in the automotive world.
Seriously, for the small difference in hp would you rather be driving a Hyundai?

The name sounds like a sneeze to me.

What are you driving?

"Hyundai!"

Bless you, I'm sorry what kind of car did you say that was?

[feistyfilly]

~ahem~

Do you see any ricey cheesy imports listed below? I don't.

The following is a list of muscle cars and their manufacturers (along with the pony car of the same company):
Manufacturer Pony car Muscle car
AMC Javelin SST Machine
Chevrolet Camaro Chevelle SS
Dodge Challenger Charger RT
Ford Mustang Torino GT
Mercury Cougar Cyclone CJ
Oldsmobile none 442
Plymouth Barracuda Road Runner
Pontiac Firebird GTO
Buick none Gran Sport

[Blacksnake]

I have a cheesy ricer. But I like the handling. But Hyundai will never out due Ford. EVER. I bet if you put the two side by side the Ford would be the over all winner. The Camaro and the Challenger have more HP than the Mustang but the Mustang has been #1 in almost every shoot out. I'd ride a damn bycicle before I'd drive anything from Korea.

[feistyfilly]

and Hyundai will never be called a "pony" car.

[Blacksnake]

And the Mustang still beats it in torque. Which is what really makes the difference in feel and curvy roads where top end will never be reached. And living in East Tennessee that's almost all I ever see.

[N/Apower]

And the Mustang still beats it in torque. Which is what really makes the difference in feel and curvy roads where top end will never be reached. And living in East Tennessee that's almost all I ever see.

I suppose that is why the Lotus, S2000, and RX8 are all poor performers in the twisties? No torque. Kills 'em in the road-racing.



Also, I recall having an easier time whipping 99-04GT's than I did S2000's in my WS6.

[feistyfilly]

So there you are...

[StangV82002]

Also, I recall having an easier time whipping 99-04GT's than I did S2000's in my WS6.

are you sure that isn't because you didn't see very many of them to begin with??

I've ran my fair share of S2000's... they are quick, but nothing to sweat over.

[feistyfilly]

Also, I recall having an easier time whipping 99-04GT's than I did S2000's in my WS6.

are you sure that isn't because you didn't see very many of them to begin with??

I've ran my fair share of S2000's... they are quick, but nothing to sweat over.

So there!

[StangV82002]

test drove one of the 5.0s this last Saturday... had the Brembo break package, factory CAI, factory 3.73, 255 40x18s all around, 6 speed manual.

got to say... I'm QUITE impressed.... throttle response was FAST, the shift throw is short, suspension was solid (came with a factory 2 point strut tower brace, mounts on top of the CC plates) exhaust note was VERY throaty for a factory system (I would say it sounds WAY better then the factory systems on the Camaro and Challenger... both have PISS for factory exhaust systems) the Brembo package was VERY nice... solid smooth breaking. Acceleration was AWESOME... 412 BHP and 3.73 gears really puts you in your seat!

Speaking of seats :p the interior was really nice too! the seats really hold you in place, unlike the seats in my 2002 (been looking at some racing seats.... something to hold me in better) The car had the Microsoft SYNC system... works really well, and has a lot of really cool features. you link it with your cell and you have a in-car phone system that uses the car speakers and built in mic, if you get in an accident where the airbags are deployed it auto dials 911 on your phone, nav system is easy to work with, and it has USB and stereo in for your MP3 player. also... all these things are free, unlike the OnStar systems in GM where you have to pay for the service.

The did get rid of the glass top though... unfortunately :( I really liked that feature on the 2010s

All in all, a VERY solid package... I can't afford a brand new car currently, but I would pick up a used one, no question ;p

[Trojan Horse]

[N/Apower]

Also, I recall having an easier time whipping 99-04GT's than I did S2000's in my WS6.

are you sure that isn't because you didn't see very many of them to begin with??

I've ran my fair share of S2000's... they are quick, but nothing to sweat over.

I didn't get many 99-04GT's that weren't FI to run me. They were scared. Only 2 gave me a run for it. One with a blower inched on me, and one with cams, gears, and full bolt-ons was dead= to me. The rest sucked.

I only ran 1 S2K, and it wasn't a clean race, but the car kept up better than the stock 99-04GT I ran. On the track I never saw an S2K run, but I saw 1 04 GT run. It ran 15's@94mph or something. Automatic w/catback and 4.10's. He was having issues with it shifting I think. He got beat by a stock SI or something as I recall.

The best times I have seen for the S2K's are equal to or better than the best GT times I have seen, stock for stock. They both usually run low 14's@98-99. However, you have to beat on the S more to get those times. Still, I would take an S2K over a 99-04GT any day of the week. Handling is no comparison and neither is quality.

[N/Apower]

test drove one of the 5.0s this last Saturday... had the Brembo break package, factory CAI, factory 3.73, 255 40x18s all around, 6 speed manual.

got to say... I'm QUITE impressed.... throttle response was FAST, the shift throw is short, suspension was solid (came with a factory 2 point strut tower brace, mounts on top of the CC plates) exhaust note was VERY throaty for a factory system (I would say it sounds WAY better then the factory systems on the Camaro and Challenger... both have PISS for factory exhaust systems) the Brembo package was VERY nice... solid smooth breaking. Acceleration was AWESOME... 412 BHP and 3.73 gears really puts you in your seat!

Yeah, the 1st gear in the transmission is retarded. 3.66 I think. 3.66+3.73=mad gearing.

Speaking of seats :p the interior was really nice too! the seats really hold you in place, unlike the seats in my 2002 (been looking at some racing seats.... something to hold me in better) The car had the Microsoft SYNC system... works really well, and has a lot of really cool features. you link it with your cell and you have a in-car phone system that uses the car speakers and built in mic, if you get in an accident where the airbags are deployed it auto dials 911 on your phone, nav system is easy to work with, and it has USB and stereo in for your MP3 player. also... all these things are free, unlike the OnStar systems in GM where you have to pay for the service.

The interior on the mustang has exponentially improved with every iteration.

The did get rid of the glass top though... unfortunately :( I really liked that feature on the 2010s

IT's offered on the 2011 GT500's. It should come back for the 5.0

All in all, a VERY solid package... I can't afford a brand new car currently, but I would pick up a used one, no question ;p

Great bargain for what you get--but hold out for the DI version that should be out in a year or two unless you just HAVE to have one now.

The mustang finally pulls close to 1G and runs 12's stock. Ford hit a home run. I only regret that I sold my freak WS6 before I ran one. I put a few 2010 SS's to questioning when I was a dead-tie with them up to 130+, and according to at least one test, the SS beats the new GT to 130, but we will never know...

I will say though, the gearing is what makes the GT so fast, It is geared like an import with the new Getrag. Over-all, I expected more speed. The 03/04 Cobra's weighed about 200# more and made around 10whp more or so, yet they ran similar numbers even with the crappy IRS setup out back. With the Getrag's gearing vs. the T56's gearing, I would have thought the new GT should be a lot faster. Maybe all that time spent shifting is what is costing the time/trap speed.

There is one girl who has one on another forum with DR's only running 11.8's consistantly with the automatic. The car is no slouch! I jsut expected more from the manual in the upper speeds.

[Blacksnake]

Well, I am a Honda guy. I have 3 Crxs now and 1 Civic. I've drove 3 or 4 S2000's and while I do think they handle better they don't pull out of the curve as good. And the Mustang isn't all that far behind the S2000 in handling which is pretty amazing in my book.